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Knossos (TNC)
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Joined: 15 Feb, 2007 Posts: 323 Location: Somewhere
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What would SupCom benefit more from, a faster dual-core processor, or a quad-core?
I'm not looking to buy or upgrade - I am perfectly happy with the performance I'm getting on my E6600... ...so far. Still, I'm just curious for the sake of my future options.
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Last edited by Knossos (TNC) on 20 Mar, 2007, edited 1 time in total.
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Xenoc
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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My guess would be faster dual core, as the optimisation for multi cores in SupCom suggests to me that it would make minimal use of further cores.
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werticus
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Joined: 18 Feb, 2007 Posts: 550
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wrong - my testing has shown your better off with a 2.6 x 4 than a 3.0 x 2 on the intel side.
at the low end of the scale the dual core will be faster (but they will both run the game fine with not much happening) but when the going gets tough the quad core hangs in there longer.
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yacoub
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Joined: 16 Mar, 2007 Posts: 1279
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flecture
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Joined: 20 Mar, 2007 Posts: 5
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werticus wrote: wrong - my testing has shown your better off with a 2.6 x 4 than a 3.0 x 2 on the intel side.
at the low end of the scale the dual core will be faster (but they will both run the game fine with not much happening) but when the going gets tough the quad core hangs in there longer.
Curious, my testing shows the other way around by a fair way. The 4 core setup was limited by the 1 loaded core, with the other 3 pretty much idle and at least in my case the c2d setup was faster core-for-core.
I'll see if i can run the benchie again tonight and post the spec's and results.
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drcloud
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Joined: 17 Feb, 2007 Posts: 183
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Pretty sure one of the devs posted that cores past the 2nd don't make as big of a difference. One core runs the simulation, one core runs the renderer, and then anything beyond that gets leftovers: general "housekeeping" and playing sounds, etc.
Of course, given how much the sound is crippling my (poor ol' single core) computer at the moment, that might actually be quite a big deal.
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Raffie
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Joined: 20 Feb, 2007 Posts: 222
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WAIT FOR THE MAIN GAME PATCH.
Then listen to all of us and how it is or not and what we got and THEN base your purchase on that.
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winsettz
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Joined: 17 Feb, 2007 Posts: 513
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Wasn't there a gamespot benchmark showing better performance on the quad over a duo?
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Mopar
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Rilbur
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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winsettz wrote: Wasn't there a gamespot benchmark showing better performance on the quad over a duo?
Given the complete lack of data on methodology / how the test was run, I'm not sure I trust it.
_________________ [GE]Ron Lugge
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Those that understand binary, and those that don't.
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Joined: 10 Mar, 2007 Posts: 722
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Rilbur wrote: winsettz wrote: Wasn't there a gamespot benchmark showing better performance on the quad over a duo? Given the complete lack of data on methodology / how the test was run, I'm not sure I trust it.
Indeed.. I was looking at some benchmarks for a pentium d vs core 2 and whilst the 7 pages of synthetic tests had the lowest core 2 simply wiping the floor with the best pentium d the last section had a quick and dirty game test set up with a few the newest FPS games.. And guess what.. The pentium d was only about 5% behind the best core 2.. Now these are all games that used a single core only even though both cpus are dual core.. Granted if they had used a game that uses a dual core like supcom the results would probably have been more in favor to the core 2.. So yeah carefully check the methodology used in a test before making a descision to buy one..
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AuroraXT
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Joined: 16 Mar, 2007 Posts: 64
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Had dual core, upgraded to quad core and saw quite a good fps increase.
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flecture
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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AuroraXT wrote: Had dual core, upgraded to quad core and saw quite a good fps increase.
Mind telling us what the dual setup was? You compare them at the same clocks before oc'ing the Quad? Would be good to know, my comparison is nearly invalid cos it's AMD vs intel. Much difference if you compare the benchmark results for both of them?
It'd be nice to see some tests, setup as fairly as they can be. The problem with the gamespot one is that it doesn't tell us what they're measuring. The inbuilt benchmarks, average fps, min fps? Never trust a graph without labeled axis (course i may have missed their explanation).
To be honest i think in the e6600 to q6700 case they're could well be a bit of a boost, but i assume it's down to the q67 having twice the cache (4 times if you go from a 6400). Trouble with cache is that the benificial situations can be quite fragile, so the advantage may vastly reduced under some circumstances.
Don't get me wrong, there's no downside to the quad and if they cost less i'd have had one instead of my c2d.
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Dierte
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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Joined: 15 Feb, 2007 Posts: 24 Location: Oregon, USA
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I had a x6800 core 2 extreme running at stock 2.93Ghz and then upgraded to a QX6700 core 2 quad extreme running OCed @ 2.93Ghz and there is an improvement but not by very much. i wouldn't go and make a purchase for the QX6700/Q6600 over a regular core 2. although i can say that in my experience the QX6700 performs better than the x6800 at same clock speeds. oh and the rest of the setup ran on the same ram/video card/ mobo. so the only difference was the CPU.
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AuroraXT
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Posted: 20 Mar, 2007
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flecture wrote: AuroraXT wrote: Had dual core, upgraded to quad core and saw quite a good fps increase. Mind telling us what the dual setup was? You compare them at the same clocks before oc'ing the Quad?
Nearly the same setup; I was happy with my dual core until I played this game. I like playing with everything maxed all the time and with this new quad core I do not get any fps drops even in lengthy games.
And yes, I OC'd it not long ago, and even before I OC'd it it was still giving me better fps (fraps).
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