Hi ! Just started having fun with SC2 (which is in my opionion a good sequel to FA and not a step backward as many said...)

I was just wondering , what are the tactical pecularities of every race ??? And what do you like of them ?? what are the pros and cons ???

I don't mean silly and understandable things like "AEON have no navals" but instead -that faction has superior air forces -that is the strongest tank -that ACU is the most powerful once researched... and so on !

Which is the race you play most and why!

Cybran are definitely the best faction:

-if you go Land you have invincible combo of 2 megaliths(destroys land units, range longer than point defences), adaptors(kill air, missiles and provide shield) and bomb bouncer(kills all air instantly, protects against artillery)

-and if that is not enough, you can have walking battleships with huge huge range and great anti-air power

-then you have the most powerful air unit in the game-soulripper, 2 can quickly kill any ground force, experimental or medium sized base

-if your enemy is heavily turtled just build magnetron within range and suck everything in

-you can also build artillery

-point defences are far more devastating than of other 2 factions when fully upgraded

-very fast experimental transport, proto brain for speedy research and extra powerful/support air unit

-also Cybrans are best designed/looking faction

I haven't found any use for Cybranausaurs Rex, see signature below, so don't bother ever building it.

Zol, you have officially no idea how to play.

Cybran can battleship spam, that's it. UEF rule every other roost.

If you say, "Who has the strongest tank?" -> UEF. "Who has the strongest air?" -> UEF (disregarding the fact vet bug, which is new). "Who has the best arty?" -> UEF, the Disruptor Station is far, far better than any other standard arty. "Who has the strongest fabs/econ?" -> UEF.

Aeon suck.

Lot of nonsense here.
Fatboy is a glass cannon, very poor at dealing with small units and King Kriptor's range is too short. Megalith is more useful than both of them, not to mention that Executioner battleship is better than both. How is then UEF better on land?

How does UEF have strong air, sure it is the only faction with specialized AA fighters but drop like flies with adaptors, and all UEF gunships drop like flies when engaged with soulripper, and all air units instantly get destroyed with bomb bouncer

mentioning UEF artillery when this is undisputed is another sign of your ineptitude...

This man speaks truely.

The fact that you even reference Experimentals shows how badly you suck. All Experimentals are substantially worse than their mass in raw tanks, and the Rockhead massively outperforms the Loyalist in combat. You can't take on Rockheads in combat, with any other land unit, except ACUs.

If you play a UEF player, and you spend RP on bomb bouncer or megalith and didn't lose before you could build one, he simply sucked.

Oh, and the Executioner is absurdly OP, but I noted that.

Why is this even relevant, you can kite 10 rockheads with 2 brackmans and kill all of them.

You really don't make much sense, and stop with the unwarranted baseless insults already.

The Illuminate have no bellybuttons...wtf?

You could, but I could just shoot back with Demolishers. Or my horrendously powerful ACU. Or, I could use my air. All of which trump you. Or I could flat out outspam you, since my economy is much stronger than yours. Or I could use shields and arty, since yours suck and mine don't.

Especially if you want to use Megaliths and Adaptors. For that cost, I could make so many Rockheads, even Brackmans wouldn't kill them.

I love how the guy with the Cybran symbol for a forum pic is arguing how much better his UEF is than the Cybrans.

Lets put it this way-
There are no bases or fog of war.
I would have:
2 Megaliths, 30 adaptors, 1 Bomb Bouncer, 1 Executioner, 2 Soul Rippers

With which UEF force(equal in cost of course) would you destroy that army?

Lurk more. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Zol is either a nefarious and ingenious troll. Or just a cute little thing. Either way, good entertainment.

LOL, gotta love the quote-everything-than-dismiss-it-without-saying-anything-at-all strategy. That has to be one of the oldest tricks on the internet...

100% of that Army's mass worth in Rockheads (which is about 161 of them, not counting factory veterancy which would yield around 200 rockheads or so) will easily do the trick. (I think half of the rockheads will survive - assuming I get to spend as much research on my army as you get on yours, but that's a given seeing how you have 2 Cybran Major Experimentals in your lineup)

Wanna try it online with me?

You were actually spot on with a couple points (C-Rex are indeed useless), but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

UEF is much stronger at the start when they are pumping out tanks, and you are stuck researching exps. They are a very focused faction, and all of their units are good at one thing, but not much else. Cybran are more well rounded, but also weaker at the start.

Ya know, seeing as you seem to be ignoring the factories required to make these units, for the cost in mass and RP of your force Zol, a uef player could build 193~ fully upgraded gunships or 371~ rockhead tanks? Cybrans have some great units but I rather doubt your chosen force could stand up to these kinds of numbers.

I also want to see you kite my 10 Rockheads with 2 Brackmans.

I'll just micro my rockheads out of the way of your projectiles and drive into your base to shoot expensive crap instead of 2 lowly Brackmans (my early gunships will rape those anyway while you haven't even researched adaptors; or if you have, you couldn't kite me with the Brackmans because they'd still be slow and I'd have my range upgrade).

Cybran have great flexibility. UEF is very strong in a straight-up fight.

UEF cannot kill an ACU with a swarm of fighters, UEF cannot walk ships under enemy shields. UEF cannot use titans as flying bombs.

But UEF CAN win any tank battle.

NUKES.

@JWest: No Buildings.

But...
ZOL: GOOD SIR, YOU ARE FULL OF BOVINE MANURE!

I conducted said experiment with a friend - 161 Rockheads with 75 RP invested against the Army Lineup you mentioned (which costs 75 RP just to get). Mass cost is about equal (6450ish, Rockheads were a little mass cheaper - not even counting factory veterancy as I said - and had 2 RP or so leftover).

Here are the results (minutes 28/35, sorry, my friend and I were blabbing and yakking in TS instead of hurrying the f... up )

http://senduit.com/1c6063 (35 mins, with Fog of War, 105 Rockheads survive)
http://senduit.com/bbc1f1 (28 mins, without Fog of War, 130 Rockheads survive)

(GameReplays.org submission link will follow as soon as it's up...)

TL;DR: battle lasts about 10 seconds, only the falling damage from the Soul Rippers wipes out about 25 Rockheads each, no significant casualties on the UEF side.

so rather than answer the new guy's question...this thread turns into a giant flame war..

*edit*
not sayin nobody responded with bad information..just saying that it could've been refuted more respectfully...

You would die to my endless waves of rockheads and uber powerful upgraded com long before you even built the experimental gantry.

If by some miracle you managed to get that army, you sort of deserve to win. Although I would use my (fully upgraded) com, 100 fighters, and however many rockheads I can afford with the mass I have left and I think that army would be reduced to dust with decent micro of my com.

hey guys, have anyone ran a test of hardened loyalist (armor upgrade) vs FU rockeheads ?

Also, if a equal mass of loyalist is jetted on top of rockheads and then self destruct, what percentage of rockheads will survive ?