The UEF Air Superior Fighters are unaible to kill Cybran Air Superior Fighters. I tested it multiple times and spawned 5 Cybrans and 5 UEF Air Sup fighters. Everytime the Cybrans win with 0 or 1 lose.
It seems that they can do any damage to them even if their DPS is MUCH higher. They just dont hit them.
This is really a balance issue because UEF have no chance to kill Cybran UEF Sup Fighters except they are attacking the base.

I think UEF players are just used to being rubbish in the air. The wasp is worse than the Gemmi in almost every way. Yet you rarely seem many complaints about it.

The reason some players are saying the gemmi is fine is because they are busy eating wasps with them!

Ah well ... UEF have other advantages.

All UEF AA bar maybe T2 is awful. I've had 6 T3 fixed AA sites miss a single T3 fighter (all the missiles pull in behind it and then sit there til the fuel runs out).

Yes, because the Cybran air sups can flit around pointlessly after the four days it takes them to actually get rid of the Wasps.

Seriously, the idea of establishing dominance with the lowest damage fighter just because it can kill the one that's least likely to hit is ridiculous. Also, UEF strat bombers can land and take down Geminis with their dorsal gun. The bigger problem is that Cybran has no way to engage air units in the midfield, since their air sup sucks so badly at actually damaging things.

Also, there are at least two other threads on this matter already.

Accept the fact that UEF AA just sucks. I resort to using ambassadors as AA defenders docked onto a Air staging... sure they can't bomb straight but at least they have great AA guns.

And if a 12 dps Gemini beats the Wasp, there is nothing much to argue. Wasp fare great against X-air units however.

You know, all this complaining about UEF all of a sudden is a symptom of them becoming playable. Cybran players are coming over and bringing with them the bizarre and uncanny expectation that AA defences are supposed to actually do something. Only now do you realise what it is that justifies us getting that shiny T3 gunship, hm?

Quoting the Facts

You know what, pet peeve of mine:

From now on, anyone using ">>>>>>>" or "<<<<<<<", it actually means the opposite. That's what you get for being over-dramatic.

So then You >>>>>>Me actually means You<Me.

Seriously.

THIS REPLY IS IN TO A COMPLAINT OVER CYBRAN GEMINI ASO'S BEING SUPREMELY BETTER THAN THE UEF'S WASP.TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE DESIGN OF THE GEMINI,GOING SIMPLY BY AIRCRAFT DESIGN ALONE,THE GEMINI WOULD UNDOUBTABLY BE THE BETTER OF THE TWO (OR ALL THREE FOR THAT MATTER)IN A STRAIGHT UP DOGFIGHT.TAKE ALOOK AT OUR OWN ASO'S.WE(THE UNITED STATES)CURRENTLY HAVE THE BEST AIR SUPERIORTY FIGHTER,THE F-22 RAPTOR.HOWEVER THE RUSSIAN SU-47,WITH IT'S FORWARD FACING WINGS AND FRONT SIDE WINGS,WILL OUTMANUEVER THE F-22 EVERY TIME.THE ONLY (WELL NOT ENTIRELY THE ONLY)REASON THE F-22 REMAIGNS TOP DOG,IS DUE TO IT BEING FAR MORE ADVANCED AND OUR STEALTH TECHNOLOGY IS STILL CURRENTLY FAR BETTER THAN THEIRS.SO THE GEMINI DUE TO IT'S DESIGN FEATURES AS WELL AS THE CYBRANS SUPPOSEDLY BEING THE MORE ADVANCED FACTION SHOULD INDEED MAKE IT THE BETTER OF THE THREE.THER ARE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE GAME TO HELP BALANCE THINGS OUT.FOR EXAMPLE THE UEF GENERALY HAS THE HIGHEST HEALTH FOR IT'S UNITS AND STRUCTERS THAN THE OTHERS.IF YOU HAD EVERY UNIT IN THE GAME HAVING CLOSE TO THE SAME STATS THEN YOUR REALLY CHOOSING YOUR FAVORITE FACTION TO PLAY WITH SIMPLY BY THEIR LOOK,NAME,OR APPEARANCE.RATHER THAN THEIR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESS'S TO SUIT YOUR OWN FIGHTING STYLE AND STRATEGIES.THERE WOULD BE NO DIVERSITY IN THE GAME.PERSONNALLY I FEEL THEIR NEEDS TO BE MORE DIVERSITY.

1) Cybran air superiority fighters are useless against anything except other air superiority fighters.
2) UEF air superiority fighters are broken.

Gemmis beat Wasps in tests.

I tried it. Loads of tests. Gemmis win all the time.

So there you go.

AAAGH

*Gashes Out Eyes*

SIR I DID NOT READ YOUR POST AS IT IS COMPLETELY UNREADABLE NOT ONLY IS IT HARD ON THE EYES BECAUSE IT IS IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS BUT THE COMPLETE LACK OF ANY SORT CORRECT GRAMMAR ALSO MAKES IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS WRITTEN BY AN IDIOT EVEN THOUGH I AM SURE YOU ARE NOT AN IDIOT. I AM UNSURE WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAD ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY OR NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORTH A MIGRANE HEADACHE FROM ahhh, now I have one just from writing my own.

Arklon, I think you mean "Cybran air superiority fighters are useless against anything except for U.E.F. air superiority fighters." Or are you forgetting that Cybran gets creamed by Aeon in the air?

Caps Lock is cruise control for cool.

Back on topic, how come some players are doing tests which result in stunning and repeated defeats for U.E.F. and others do similar tests which show stunning and repeated defeats for Cybrans?

As stated before, Area Damage Radius of 1 is what kills the UEF fighters, and prevents them from doing any damage in all cases except for perfect circumstances where the target they are aiming for is moving at its minimum speed, or is big. They own Gemini once you remove the damage radius.

And the Corona rapes them all. Currently the Gemini is good against other fighters and bombers but absolutely suck against X-units and T3 gunships. Wasp only against X-units and hovering gunships (I hope). Corona is just good against anything.

That's not what was concluded in this thread. http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?t=11423

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UEF really doesnt need Air sups, the T3 gunships shoot down all other races
air sups very well.

Oh, boo hoo. Those poor repressed homosexuals. Are you coming out of the closet now?