http://www.destructoid.com/supreme-comm ... 1215.phtml

As usual the rts players of Console games will get the shaft. How many people want to bet on two sure things. Gas Powered games will not respond to this or any post about the lack of support for SUPCOM2 XBOX360 version, and the 360 will never ever get a patch. This is typical of RTS games on the console. They will come soooo close to perfection but fail over the lack of simple standard features. (ie) no 2 vs 2 ranked or custom matches.

Actually PC already has that patch.

But you have to realize that there is a lot that cacn slow down a patch for ANY 360 title, as everything has to not only go through GPG's QA, and get Approved/Funded by SE but also has to deal with Microsofts QA, which I've been told can last SEVERAL Weeks, its just barely been out for a month on the 360 as I recall, so to be honest, its not really that surprising there hasn't been a patch yet for 360 considering the facts.

Also, yes 1.11 was a big patch, but it took about a month and a half to get to it and its a great patch, so maybe GPG/SE is waiting to compile everything ina one big patch, Quality over quantity you know? Thats how I'd do it to be honest.

Mike

Gas Powered Games took the time to report that a DEMO for the 360 is out. Then why can they not put out a press release saying a patch is at least being worked on for the 360 and that they are looking into it. Someone somewhere, is to balme for the lack of 2 vs 2 ranked and custom matches. No matter how they spin it, a majority of people play multiplayer and do that with their friends thru game invites. The lack of key multiplayer components( 2 vs 2 ) is an absolute game killer. They will have killed any chance for long term players of this game. So far GPG's has proven they dont care about console players, and by telling the people who allready own the game that the demo is out is ignorant. Games like Fable2, Grand theft Auto 4 , and Resident Evil 5, and actually Universe At War (rts game) all had huge patches and updates. I can not totally believe that MS is to blame for the lack of a possible patch for the 360. GPG's should have had the foresight to know this would be a problem. I am speaking of Microsofts patch "rules".

Because they can neither confirm or deny that currently. But it's not like GPG does not want to add a lot of other things to the game, e.g. 2v2 matchmaking for the XBox version.

ok fair enough. But I hope you remember this thread when months go by and all that the console players hear from GPG is silence.

The situation won't be any different a few months from now . i.e. GPG will still very much like to add a patch to the 360 version.

Square Enix decides if that is going to happen or not. You will be better of directing these kinds of inquiries to Square Enix, but they will have a similar situation. They can't really confirm or deny anything, they simply have to assess whether or not it's profitable for them to pay GPG, Microsoft, etc. (don't know how the patch process works exactly for 360 games) to make a patch for Supreme Commander 2 on the 360. So far SquareEnixDave responded, that they will definitely look into it. Nothing more definitive so far.

Don't forget, when it comes to knowing about patches, we PC players are in the dark as much as you guys are. We don't know whats going into them or when they'll be released before hand. Also consider that this is GPG's first time working with the 360, so things could also be delayed by "learning things the hard way" when dealing with Microsofts requirements/QA.

Mike

OrangeKnight wrote:


Ummm nooo, not their first 360 game...... feel free to insert foot in mouth now.

Maybe next time you should get your facts straight before you start rambling off lies, but I guess ignorance is bliss.

Are you talking about SC1 on 360? *Grabs case from shelf* GPG didn't do the port for that, Aspyr Media published while Hellbent Games Developped.

Mike

As OK already pointed out, it is you who did not get the facts straight . GPG did not develop the 360 port for Supreme Commander. It was developed by Hellbent Games and published by Aspyr Media.

I never took it into account that this is GPG's first foray into console territory.

Wow.

First game and they've already surpassed all of the chumps who made console RTS' beforehand.

They did a damn good job.

All but LOTR:BFMEII
I still say that's the best console RTS.
So good it didn't need a patch, and it got some free and pay DLC.

Unfortunatly console didn't get the expansion.

But I'm really enjoying Supcom2 save the lack of 2v2 and I'd love the nerf for air units.

About asking SquareEnix for support... well, that'll get you banned. I got banned for 30 days because of this:

I made a thread, asking if we were going to get a patch. SquareEnixDave replied "If we decide it needs a patch, we will patch it."

So, logically, I replied "Why would the PC version need a patch but not the Xbox version?"

And, 30 day ban.

Their 'forums' are just an announcement board, you can't actually say anything about SC2 without heavy censorship.

You were pestering the forum by creating multiple threads about the same question.

complete nonsense. gpg have a long and glorious history of letting people post whatever they like. just because childish, petulant spam gets deleted doesn't mean its gone all 1984.

He was talking about the SE forum.

okay, that 30 day ban is a little suspicious. he has a good mind to question the fact that the XBox version only gets patches when it needs them, but seemingly the PC version needs patches much more. I can think of a few reasons why it wouldn't need a patch, but they all end badly for the console gamer.

also, their forums don't have any OT discussion... so anything not about Sup2 gets the strong-arm.

oh. im slow.

Two threads bringing up legitimate problems is not worth a 30 day ban, but that's not why they banned me. They banned me because it's easier than trying to refute my points.

They're doing exactly what they're supposed to: make the game look as good as possible to bring in more sales. Boning the already-paid customers in the process, but doing their job.

Whether it is "worth" it or justified is up to the forum moderation, not you. I would be annoyed by someone who cross posts just to troll too.

You're being snarky and douchey here too, but here's the god's honest truth: Despite people who insist otherwise, the two versions are in fact different. The 360 version had ranked and quick matchmaking at launch, and the PC version had neither feature. They represent our most significant patch items for the PC, and because of our commitment to add those features we were able to sneak in a number of other changes/fixes/improvements.

We can't patch the 360 like we can the PC, so we can use the PC version to tweak the balance. Should the 360 get a patch, it could be the "final" versions of all of the incremental balance changes, none of which are arguably necessary but unquestionably make it a better game.

Thanks for the reply. Can GPG/SE not tell us when or if a patch will be released because you don't know, it needs to be kept secret, or what? Also, does GPG have any say in it, or does SE say "You make patch." or "You don't make patch."?

there is no need for ranked 2v2. the leader boards will just be boosted since the trueskill system is used. just look at the halo wars leader boards
http://www.halowars.com/stats/Leaderboards.aspx
look at the 3v3 party team leader boards
the number 1 3v3 team boosted to number 1 in 6 games and the rest of the 50s in all playlists are boosted as well besides a select 1-2.

some sort of 2v2 party needs to be iplamited but no need to make it ranked.

1. I don't see anything snarky or douchey about this to be honest. It seems a perfectly logical and reasonable question to ask.

2. Why didnt you just give this explanation to start with, instead of a month ban?

Seems to me like the guy has a genuine concern here and he jus needs a few things explained. He did spend the money on the game, how many seconds does it take to write him a quick explanation.

If I'm missing something here please do let me know.

You didn't read the whole thread. ponchato was banned for pestering the Square Enix forum with the same questions. Of course there is nothing wrong with asking why the 360 version did not get patched yet, but he was trolling by posting it several times with a "snarky and douchey" attitude.