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Sarimus
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Posted: 20 Apr, 2007
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Awesome work Xenoc!! Your help has not gone unnoticed. 
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Xenoc
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Posted: 25 Apr, 2007
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UPDATE: I've spent a couple of hours trawling manufacturer specs to give some idea of laptop card compatibility. Seems the X series Radeon cards and Go6xxx cards on upwards should be all fine, but I've kept them in yellow if I haven't had confirmation from one of you lovely people regarding success (or not) in getting it to run.
And when I say I checked the specs, it means I've looked for SM3 and geometry instancing. I haven't looked specifically at video RAM as this can vary enourmously. I'll trust you all to be able to work out whether your own card has the right amount 
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NJ
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Posted: 27 Apr, 2007
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I have an "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X" and i think it said that that is the problem (go to http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=show&a=img&id=5979) and u said to leave a post to see if u could help?
PS. please email me at "nikguy321@hotmail.com" , because i dont check this page very often.[/url]
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Xenoc
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Posted: 28 Apr, 2007
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NJ wrote: I have an "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X" and i think it said that that is the problem (go to http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=show&a=img&id=5979) and u said to leave a post to see if u could help? PS. please email me at "nikguy321@hotmail.com" , because i dont check this page very often.[/url]
MX440 is a very old card indeed, some 5 years old - it's the series before the FX5xxx.
There is no way it will support Supreme Commander as it is only a DirectX 8 card.
I'm also going to guess the rest of your system is around the same age, so will also struggle to play the game. Use http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest to check. Select the Supreme Commander option. It'll tell you whether you're able to run the game, and what other components may cause problems.
Post back here if you want upgrade advice. I'll send this same reply to your email address.
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Xenoc
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Posted: 28 Apr, 2007
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NJ
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Posted: 30 Apr, 2007
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oh, my email does work, i got the email...
and thanks alot!! that helps so much. i am going to get a new video card, probably in a couple of days! forchanitly all of my other system surpassed the recommended requirments (my 5 year old pc is still pretty nice) i sould be running it as good as a new computer would as soon as i get the card. 
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Xenoc
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Posted: 01 May, 2007
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NJ
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Posted: 01 May, 2007
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acualy about $500-$700 maby, i dont know. and this will be my first upgrade too, i think i ordered it with the biger, more power full stuff to be put in it ,all of the other games i have play awsomely. ( i think we got it because we were fet up with all of the games freezing and lagging all the time)
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VectorDP
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Posted: 01 May, 2007
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I have what some might consider a stupid question, but I am looking into buying a new video card, and I am looking for some help. I want to buy the Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS, but when I went to the local store the product that they have is made by BFG. I also work for the Gov't so I get a discount from Dell and they have the 8800 GTS but they have them made by EVGA and XFX.
Is there a difference? Or is there anything that I should know before I order from Dell.
It has been a while since I have upgraded anything as far as video and sound cards, so I am a little out of the know.
Can anyone help???
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Posted: 01 May, 2007
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They're not that different. Nvidia makes a reference design and makes the chips, and manufacturers (BFG, EVGA, XFX, ASUS, etc.) make the actual product.
Differences are basically warranty and how far they're factory overclocked, if at all. It's still the same chip, with fundamentally similar performance.
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Xenoc
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Posted: 02 May, 2007
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Exactly as suntiger said - you may want to check out the exact specs such as what clockspeed they're running at, how many pipelines are enabled and so forth (often companies will put an overclock on the card before you buy it, so one manufacturers card will be at 425MHz, while others are running at 400Mhz). However, the actual GPU is designed and built by NVidia, and the card layout is built to a reference spec by NVidia - there's little physical difference between one card and another apart from the exceptions mentioned above.
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qsito
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Posted: 06 May, 2007
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is the Nvidia 6200 playable? I was gonna get one but i want to make sure it works with SC first
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Spooky
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Posted: 07 May, 2007
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qsito wrote: is the Nvidia 6200 playable? I was gonna get one but i want to make sure it works with SC first
It will work, but I wouldn't buy such an old and crappy video card 
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Posted: 07 May, 2007
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i may sound like a noob because i dont play my computer much because i play my xbox 360 a lot, but where do you see what graphics card because when i play SupCom it says "Please verify system meets mininum requirments" please help 
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Spooky
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Posted: 07 May, 2007
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DJ97 wrote: i may sound like a noob because i dont play my computer much because i play my xbox 360 a lot, but where do you see what graphics card because when i play SupCom it says "Please verify system meets mininum requirments" please help 
Post a DXdiag, see Xenoc's signature how to do that.
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Posted: 07 May, 2007
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I'm not exactly a computer expert, but I think my problem is my video card is a bit out dated. Hopefully someone here can help. The game looks terrible on my computer and runs really slow. I can't stand it. The videos run great with no slow down, but the game itself is a slog fest.
Here's my system spec:
Pentium 4 3.20GHz Intel processesor
3GB RAM
Radeon x600 256mb video card
So it's the video card, right? I think I saw it in the "yellow" section at the start of this post, but it still runs just awful.
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Xenoc
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Posted: 08 May, 2007
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Yeah, the yellow section is for cards that will run it (which apparently it does) but at pretty nasty speeds.
The x600 was never a great card unfortunately.
If you can give us an approximate budget, and whether it's an AGP or PCI Express slot, and what country you're in I'm sure people will be able to come up with some good options for you.
Xen.
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Posted: 08 May, 2007
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OgreBane99 wrote: I'm not exactly a computer expert, but I think my problem is my video card is a bit out dated. Hopefully someone here can help. The game looks terrible on my computer and runs really slow. I can't stand it. The videos run great with no slow down, but the game itself is a slog fest.
Here's my system spec:
Pentium 4 3.20GHz Intel processesor 3GB RAM Radeon x600 256mb video card
So it's the video card, right? I think I saw it in the "yellow" section at the start of this post, but it still runs just awful.
What I did with my dads laptop was;
go to options --> Video --> turn Everything into; off & low
this may increase the speed
but don't play 4 vs 4 in Skirimish, you have a high chance your computer will crash that way
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Posted: 08 May, 2007
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ok, now I have a question on my own
I have a GMA(OR something like that) 945
(stated in first post, in red, notebooks)
this doesn't run the game
but since I just bought this notebook (Like 2 days ago)
So what could I do best?
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Posted: 08 May, 2007
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If it's one of those fancy notebooks, where you can upgrade or exchange the GPU... you might wanna buy a new one
But I doubt that it is possible in your case.
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Posted: 08 May, 2007
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Basically, laptops aren't designed for high spec gaming (unless you spalsh out a couple of thousand pounds on a gaming laptop, and even they aren't a patch on the desktop you could buy for the same money).
Laptops suffer from overheating and low power, which means even a graphics card of equivalent name and number to a desktop card will see nowhere close to the same performance as the desktop card.
Also, as you have experienced, most laptops are only fitted with onboard graphics like the 945. These cards utilise the CPU to do a lot of the graphics rendering. This makes them pretty much useless for 3D gaming.
The best you can do is find out if your laptop has an expansion slot for a replacement graphics card. if not, I'm afraid you're stuck.
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Spooky
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Posted: 08 May, 2007
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Or wait for that crazy external video card 
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OgreBane99
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Posted: 08 May, 2007
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Xenoc wrote: and whether it's an AGP or PCI Express slot, Xen.
How do I find that out?
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Xenoc
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Posted: 08 May, 2007
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Posted: 08 May, 2007
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I ran CPUZ and it's PCI Express... couldn't get the screenshot thing to work though. But it says, "Graphic Interface: PCI Express" and "Link Width: x16" and "Max Supported: x16"
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