Taking units from Allied AI in skirmish

Commander_Tobias · **Joined:** 16 Jun, 2007 **Posts:** 296 **Location:** Earth

Both UEF. Us vs a Cybran and an Aeon.

duncane

I do more tests myself later today... didnt really try it out much as I dont play many games with allies, but it should be possible to get it work. Probably just need to add the units to AIs pool of units.

duncane

When you give units make sure they are near an AIs base... An AI will only form platoons within 100 clicks (about 2.5km) of one of its bases. I could increase this, but I dont want to impact performance.

[EDIT]
This is true for most units, except for experimental which it will form and use anywhere on the map.
Also this could be causing some AI units that stray too far from base and then disband not to form a new platoon so I may look at fixing this as part of my AI patch.
[/EDIT]

Commander_Tobias · **Joined:** 16 Jun, 2007 **Posts:** 296 **Location:** Earth

Is there a simpler way to point out units that the AI appears to have abandoned and get them to return to the closest AI base?

The AIs seam to lose track of all kind of units all over the map some times.
If i take a mex before an AI engy then the engy will usually stop and listen to its iPod for the next 10 minutes.

Can i give a text command to ask the AI to recall all unoccupied units outside of its bases?

duncane

It should be possible to add some kind of check for units out side of the base. I will look at it for my AI fix mod.

iky10 · **Joined:** 25 Jul, 2007 **Posts:** 8

i installed this mod, but cant seem to use, i hav the vanilla supcom, and the it doesnt work, unless its for FA, any1 hav any info.

Legion Darrath

I'm fairly sure its FA only.

iky10 · **Joined:** 25 Jul, 2007 **Posts:** 8

what is required to make it work in the vanilla supcom

Edit: jus recieved my copy of forged alliance from amazon...cant go wrong for £10. will try it 2day..

duncane

It requires me to re-install vanilla and then redo the mod to work in that... which is not going to happen ;-P

Or you could go buy FA... its probably around for cheap now plus SC is much better with FA installed.

hellewellth · **Joined:** 20 Oct, 2007 **Posts:** 50 **Location:** USA

excellent!

Now all i need is one that can allow me take over Enemy's as well.
using along with NullAI.

Grim Tuesday · **Joined:** 08 Feb, 2008 **Posts:** 1074

theres a console command for taking over enemy ones

OutOfTimer

Dear Duncane,

I've installed your Allied AI Control Mod along with Sorian's mods and your AI enhancements but for some reason it doesn't seem to work. When I enable it in the mod menager, it is highlighted but not recognised. It's kind of omitted when I exit the mod menager lobby. Is it my fault or some of these mods are incompatible (I tested it with regular Easy AI and had cheats on just like you told us to)?

In addition, do you think it's possible to incorporate this mod into one of your bigger mods or maybe I should ask Sorian if it's possible?

Thanks for help.

duncane

Hmmm.... sounds like a mod conflict.

try removing all other mods and see if it works. Then readd each mod one by one to see which one is conflicting.

regabond · **Joined:** 19 Mar, 2007 **Posts:** 2453

It would still be nice if the AI would give as many of its units as possible to an ally right before it died.

duncane

Yes but how do you automatically decide when?

OutOfTimer

I would suggest automated units-giving when HP decreases to let's say 10%. In addition, there's always a second or two when units-giving still works when the ACU blows up, only to be disabled when you finally die.

@ duncane: It seems it somehow must be my fault because I can't get your mod to work no matter how I switch all the other mods. Thanks for help anyway.

BulletMagnet

i do believe you can get away with hooking the ACU's OnDeath event (or what ever it happens to be called) and giving units away before continuing on.

something like;

Code:

local oldOnDeath = OnDeath
function OnDeath(self)
   GiefUnitzToFriendz()
   oldOnDeath(self)
end

[PS:] we can use any sort of workaround we like here, even if it's not really realistic. because, after all, the AI does have an eco. buff and can see everywhere. XP

duncane

OutOfTimer... Im sad to hear it doesnt work... You know you need to click on the AI player name to take them over yeah?

BulletMagnet... Good point, it should be possible to make it so that an AI player losing its ACU would give all units. But is that really fair?

Besides... Im off to play Demigod ;-)

regabond · **Joined:** 19 Mar, 2007 **Posts:** 2453

Well most decent human players can hand off their units just fine. Not to mention there are mods that hotkeys giving all units to some random player on your team. It could always be made an option in the lobby?

rlpowell · **Joined:** 19 Sep, 2007 **Posts:** 23

duncane: I love this mod, thank you!

As for the whole AI not using units, maybe you could add a button that says "give these units to the AI, and force the AI to notice them"?

Or maybe an area command that designates a fake base for the AI?

Is there any way to force the AI to make a base? Simply making the AI make a factory doesn't seem to do the trick.

-Robin

rlpowell · **Joined:** 19 Sep, 2007 **Posts:** 23

Man, the Swarm AI really doesn't understand amphibious units.

I gave it a whole bunch of amphibious tanks, and they just sat there.

At least it understands amphibious experimentals.

(using duncane's AI patch, and the non-cheating swarm AI, fwiw)

-Robin

DimeBag · **Joined:** 07 Jan, 2010 **Posts:** 6

This is such a great mod just wanted to say thanks. I usually just scrim the AI (lol your AI mod too) and I always wanted to be able to do this.

Thanks

Taking units from Allied AI in skirmish

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