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 PostPosted: 11 Jun, 2012 
 

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I took tracking off bombs, and need to tweak the numbers to they are just a touch more accurate (though they are good enough now to hit mexes, they are not accurate enough for PD/AA/radar unless you get lucky.

A bunch of structures are now able to take advantage of Quantum Floating that were not able to in vanilla, and are missing their wrecks (though I am pretty sure I know how to fix this in their scripts, hopefully I can just copy and paste from the othe units)

I would like to make the UEF ACU's nuke missle not fire until given an order to do so if possible, is it as easy as setting autoattack to false?

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what a terrible way to ask for help, but i'll chime in on a few subjects

Note- haven't really tried modding SC2 so some of what i'm about to say may or may not be helpful.

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Units with multiple ranges only have one range ring;-
in FA if units with multiple weapon ranges all had the same category( IE DirectFire, or Anti-Air) then the range ring would only show the longest range for that category, probably the same in SC2.

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Sometimes bomber's do not drop bombs, but I think it is just the long rechage time I put on it, is there any way to add a little meterbar to the unit to let you know it is reloading, like T3 mobile arty in FA?
There was a line in the weapon be used called
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RenderFireClock = true,
in FA, pretty sure this is used in SC2 as well, you should also take a look at existing units that do what you want and search for what makes them different than what you are trying to do(UEF arty for example?)

as for your other problems, without knowing what you changed there really isn't much that we can do to help.

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 PostPosted: 11 Jun, 2012 
 

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This sounds excellent.

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I see a load of problems with your code that would take me a good hour to go over, best to start with your scaling your missing a load of values which need to be scaled also, also weapon and unit effects will be off you cant just scale unit with merges you also need to hook there scripts.

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Sorry if I came off a little callous in 'asking for help'. I am working alone on this project and it was first release day yesterday, meaning alot of tidying up and typing so the original post there was just a copy and paste from the bottom of my readme file that contained the known issues.

Let it be known that any help is greatly appreciated, even your's which was still vague for me, not coming from SC/FA/Demi-God, and only having started modding with SC2, of which no weapons have a timer that I know of. I managed to find the blueprint for a SC unit online though, I'll give it a shot for my next internal build.

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Thanks for the advice, I would love to hear what specifically would still need to be changed for each unit if you know what they are, so that I can do that. I have a website that lists the blueprint variables for SC/FA (obviously missing some like the render clock), but the descriptions are not all there for SC2's physics.

There seem to be like 3 different places in some blueprints that define size (the actual Size variables in the main part, the Footprint section, and some units have another listing under Physics:Footprint). I tried to fiddle with each to determine that they do but did not have much luck in determining which did what. Also the website I mentioned above sometime uses the same words in the description as the names of the variables, without describing what they do otherwise so I get lost in the ambiguity sometimes.

I would really like to continue working on making the mod better, but since I am quite new (but a quick learner, and good with this sort of thing once I figure out what to do) a little help to steer me on the right path would go a long way.

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Sorry i dont have much time to help im busy working on my own mod heres a list of things that need to be scaled but this list is overall so it covers all units.

http://pastebin.com/s0gj0cFW

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Thanks LoD...any chance you could point me in the right direction for implementing changes to the research tree and unit scripts? I know what files to edit (and in fact have them edited already) but I need to know how/where to pack them together in order to get the game engine to read and run them properly.

I had limited sucess with a few things I tried, though it did 'work', so I know I am editing the proper files, something screwed up along the way (probably from me not knowing what I am supposed to be doing) and my work gets reverted or the archive gets corrupted. Thanks for your help, and I can't wait to play the full version of ReVamp

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The research files you will need to replace in the games scd and for unit scripts you can hook those you will need mithy support mod search it up there a big guide on how to use it.

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I'm still having trouble editing the research tree:

I obviously have to edit Research.lua, ResearchBuffs.lua, and ResearchLayout.lua files and get them into the z_lua_dlc1.scd, but once I edit them how do I implement them properly?

I obviously have to edit the ones from the uncompiled lua, so how do I stick that back in to the compiled file and have my game run? If I stick them in (I did this because it seems to be the way other's have done it in their mods, but maybe I am misinterpreting), my game will not start.

Am I missing a step somewhere?

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I also tried renaming z_uncompiled_lua_dlc1.scd to z_lua_dlc1.scd, it seems to read it, but I can only get one edit in before the archive corrupts. I read somwhere to rename the file to zip/rar but if I do that I can make multiple edits, but if I rename it back to .scd the game will not read it (I am assuming it saves it differently and I can't find any helpful options in 7zip for compression or anything like that).

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hotho11owpoint wrote:
I'm still having trouble editing the research tree:

I obviously have to edit Research.lua, ResearchBuffs.lua, and ResearchLayout.lua files and get them into the z_lua_dlc1.scd, but once I edit them how do I implement them properly?

I obviously have to edit the ones from the uncompiled lua, so how do I stick that back in to the compiled file and have my game run? If I stick them in (I did this because it seems to be the way other's have done it in their mods, but maybe I am misinterpreting), my game will not start.

Am I missing a step somewhere?


Hey there, take a look at this thread I started a while back http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=50389. I haven't finished it yet and it hasn't been updated in quite a while, but the info there should get you started.

Also, I'm nearing completion of coding my own GUI app that will be a drag-and-drop implementation to significantly increase the efficiency of making new research trees. This app will be used for the upcoming beta release of Revamp. If you want, I can also send you a copy when I get it done. But for now, you'll have to do it the long way and code the tree by hand as in the above link. Also, the above guide doesn't include anything on research buffs yet, although they are implemented in a straightforward manner.

Also, with the release of the next version of Revamp will come a completely new mod manager I've coded. So, you might want to consider releasing a version of your mod that will work with it.

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Thanks madface that will help alot I think, I will let you know if I encounter problems. I would definetly consider implementing a version compatable with your mod manager.

EDIT: Still having problems but I think it is just with my compression settings, getting the new version of WinRAR and will try again. ZIP and STORE should be the options instead of RAR and NORMAL is that right?

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Here's a screenie of what the new manager will look like. It's completely coded from scratch and will supersede the one by Cerus. This screenie is old and the final version will look slightly different, but 95% of the look will stay the same.

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I just sent you a Steam invite. It will be easier to chat with regards to the mod manager and research tree since I don't come on the forums as often these days.

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Still problems (compression settings is my guess) but I will wait until I see you on Steam I guess;

When I save the files they do not pack at all (size and packed size are the same), if I look at other's mods thier files are indeed shrunk.

And yes, assuming it is easy to implement I would love to use a mod manager like that for my mod!

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So as you can tell (since I have not needed to post here), things have been going nicely, however I have another question:

How do I add abilities?
to start I just wanted to add a basic PD Overdrive that extends the range and rate of fire temporarily in exchange for energy (it will be cybran only).

I added a buff to BuffDefinitions, I made myself an ability blueprint, and included it in my .scd with other new units and projectiles, and I added a unit ability to the pd's blueprint in my merge file.

However the game crashes to desktop (with repeating sound loop, and needs to be closed via task-manager) when I even click on a pd to try to see if the ability is there, and the log is of no help because it does not seem to record the last event.

What am I missing? Do I need a shadow file for the PD? Anything else I need to tweak? Add me to steam or reply here if you think you can help me.

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You need to hook orderstable.lua to add ability's to the UI.

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Thanks dude works like a charm.

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